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iCM Forum's Favorite Horror Films (2017)

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#250 (#new) Viy (1967, Konstantin Ershov & Georgi Kropachyov), 356.05 points, 14 votes (IMDb)
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#249 (-29, #220) Vredens dag (1943, Carl Theodor Dreyer), 356.29 points, 8 votes (IMDb)
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#248 (-70, #178) The Uninvited (1944, Lewis Allen), 356.37 points, 15 votes (IMDb)
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#247 (#new) Friday the 13th (1980, Sean S. Cunningham), 357.12 points, 9 votes (IMDb)
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#246 (-12, #234) Slither (2006, James Gunn), 358.44 points, 13 votes (IMDb)
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#245 (#new) Gok-seong (2016, Hong-jin Na), 358.69 points, 9 votes (IMDb)
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All of the ICM links seem to be to the wrong movies.
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Thanks for the quick turnover of results! :thumbsup: I'm a little disappointed that the countdown is limited to a top 250. Will you at least be expanding it to 500 when you update the iCM list? With many films towards the 250 mark receiving 10+ votes, I'd assume that the titles towards the 500 mark would be on at least three or four separate ballots.
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Nov 19 2017, 02:06:15 AM
Thanks for the quick turnover of results! :thumbsup: I'm a little disappointed that the countdown is limited to a top 250. Will you at least be expanding it to 500 when you update the iCM list? With many films towards the 250 mark receiving 10+ votes, I'd assume that the titles towards the 500 mark would be on at least three or four separate ballots.
The top 500 included films with only 2 votes, so I'm only doing a top 250 unfortunately.
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#244 (-3, #241) À l'intérieur (2007, Alexandre Bustillo & Julien Maury), 363.25 points, 10 votes (IMDb)
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#243 (#new) La ragazza che sapeva troppo (1963, Mario Bava), 363.44 points, 8 votes (IMDb)
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#242 (-25, #217) The Devil's Rejects (2005, Rob Zombie), 366.29 points, 12 votes (IMDb)
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No, really!


The ICM links are all pointing to the wrong movies.


The Devil's Rejects links to the ICM page for Them!


They all link to the wrong movies.
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Nov 19 2017, 02:39:51 AM
No, really!


The ICM links are all pointing to the wrong movies.


The Devil's Rejects links to the ICM page for Them!


They all link to the wrong movies.
OH yea woops, something went wrong in the spreadsheet the other day and I forgot to fix it. If I get time later I'll sort it out...
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#241 (-34, #207) Orlacs Hände (1924, Robert Wiene), 367.63 points, 9 votes (IMDb)
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#240 (-26, #214) War of the Worlds (2005, Steven Spielberg), 367.89 points, 7 votes (IMDb)
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#239 (-20, #219) Insidious (2010, James Wan), 369.75 points, 14 votes (IMDb)
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#238 (-39, #199) The Mummy (1932, Karl Freund), 369.76 points, 13 votes (IMDb)
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#237 (#new) Orphan (2009, Jaume Collet-Serra), 370.09 points, 14 votes (IMDb)
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#236 (#new) A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors (1987, Chuck Russell), 373.54 points, 10 votes (IMDb)
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They should be all correct from now on...

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#235 (-29, #206) Coraline (2009, Henry Selick), 374.35 points, 10 votes (IMDb)
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#234 (-36, #198) Interview with the Vampire: The Vampire Chronicles (1994, Neil Jordan), 374.97 points, 12 votes (IMDb)
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#233 (#new) Panna a netvor (1978, Juraj Herz), 375.28 points, 7 votes (IMDb)
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sol
Nov 19 2017, 02:06:15 AM
Thanks for the quick turnover of results! :thumbsup: I'm a little disappointed that the countdown is limited to a top 250. Will you at least be expanding it to 500 when you update the iCM list? With many films towards the 250 mark receiving 10+ votes, I'd assume that the titles towards the 500 mark would be on at least three or four separate ballots.
The top 500 included films with only 2 votes, so I'm only doing a top 250 unfortunately.
I had another skim, and it looks like a top 400 would be pretty solid, but it's kind of a random number?
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#232 (-24, #208) Dracula (1992, Francis Ford Coppola), 376.72 points, 9 votes (IMDb)
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#231 (#new) L'uccello dalle piume di cristallo (1970, Dario Argento), 377.68 points, 15 votes (IMDb)
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#230 (#new) Outer Space (2000, Peter Tscherkassky), 378.88 points, 8 votes (IMDb)
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#229 (-87, #142) The Fog (1980, John Carpenter), 382.04 points, 17 votes (IMDb)
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#228 (-1, #227) 1408 (2007, Mikael Håfström), 382.51 points, 12 votes (IMDb)
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#227 (#new) The Hitcher (1986, Robert Harmon), 383.04 points, 13 votes (IMDb)
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#226 (-34, #192) Berberian Sound Studio (2012, Peter Strickland), 388.06 points, 11 votes (IMDb)
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#225 (#new) Vampire's Kiss (1988, Robert Bierman), 388.28 points, 9 votes (IMDb)
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#224 (#new) Altered States (1980, Ken Russell), 391.47 points, 12 votes (IMDb)
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#223 (-59, #164) Bad Taste (1987, Peter Jackson), 392.09 points, 9 votes (IMDb)
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#222 (-64, #158) Final Destination (2000, James Wong), 392.95 points, 15 votes (IMDb)
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#221 (#new) The Terminator (1984, James Cameron), 395.16 points, 9 votes (IMDb)
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Love The Terminator but I don't think it's a horror film at all.
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#220 (#new) Shivers (1975, David Cronenberg), 396.19 points, 14 votes (IMDb)
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#219 (+25, #244) Manhunter (1986, Michael Mann), 397.02 points, 12 votes (IMDb)
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#218 (#new) The Bad Seed (1956, Mervyn LeRoy), 404.75 points, 14 votes (IMDb)
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mightysparks
Nov 19 2017, 04:14:29 AM
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Nov 19 2017, 02:17:47 AM
sol
Nov 19 2017, 02:06:15 AM
Thanks for the quick turnover of results! :thumbsup: I'm a little disappointed that the countdown is limited to a top 250. Will you at least be expanding it to 500 when you update the iCM list? With many films towards the 250 mark receiving 10+ votes, I'd assume that the titles towards the 500 mark would be on at least three or four separate ballots.
The top 500 included films with only 2 votes, so I'm only doing a top 250 unfortunately.
I had another skim, and it looks like a top 400 would be pretty solid, but it's kind of a random number?
there is 400 in 500>400 :P, 400 sounds good to me
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Good to see Orphan and The Hitcher break into the Top 250, although The Hitcher should be top 10 at least :whistling:

Didn't have Outer Space on my list but I've added it now.
Edited by te18, Nov 19 2017, 09:16:46 AM.
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Nov 19 2017, 07:44:55 AM
mightysparks
Nov 19 2017, 04:14:29 AM
mightysparks
Nov 19 2017, 02:17:47 AM
sol
Nov 19 2017, 02:06:15 AM
Thanks for the quick turnover of results! :thumbsup: I'm a little disappointed that the countdown is limited to a top 250. Will you at least be expanding it to 500 when you update the iCM list? With many films towards the 250 mark receiving 10+ votes, I'd assume that the titles towards the 500 mark would be on at least three or four separate ballots.
The top 500 included films with only 2 votes, so I'm only doing a top 250 unfortunately.
I had another skim, and it looks like a top 400 would be pretty solid, but it's kind of a random number?
there is 400 in 500>400 :p, 400 sounds good to me
400 sounds okay to me too; more's the better usually.

The only reservation I have to expanding the list is if it would pave the way for more iffy movies like The Terminator and War of the Worlds to place. A list of 400 genuine horror movies would interest me. And as I said on the nominations thread, 1000 would be the ideal (if impractical) number - for comparisons and contrasts with TSDZT.

Oh, and yay on the third Nightmare on Elm Street film placing. B) Here's hoping that New Nightmare will feature too.
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#217 (#new) Crimson Peak (2015, Guillermo del Toro), 405.96 points, 12 votes (IMDb)
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#216 (#new) The Tell-Tale Heart (1953, Ted Parmelee), 407.86 points, 10 votes (IMDb)
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#215 (-49, #166) Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986, John McNaughton), 410.97 points, 13 votes (IMDb)
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Nov 19 2017, 09:26:26 AM
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Nov 19 2017, 07:44:55 AM
mightysparks
Nov 19 2017, 04:14:29 AM
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Nov 19 2017, 02:17:47 AM
sol
Nov 19 2017, 02:06:15 AM
Thanks for the quick turnover of results! :thumbsup: I'm a little disappointed that the countdown is limited to a top 250. Will you at least be expanding it to 500 when you update the iCM list? With many films towards the 250 mark receiving 10+ votes, I'd assume that the titles towards the 500 mark would be on at least three or four separate ballots.
The top 500 included films with only 2 votes, so I'm only doing a top 250 unfortunately.
I had another skim, and it looks like a top 400 would be pretty solid, but it's kind of a random number?
there is 400 in 500>400 :p, 400 sounds good to me
400 sounds okay to me too; more's the better usually.

The only reservation I have to expanding the list is if it would pave the way for more iffy movies like The Terminator and War of the Worlds to place. A list of 400 genuine horror movies would interest me. And as I said on the nominations thread, 1000 would be the ideal (if impractical) number - for comparisons and contrasts with TSDZT.
yeah :)
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#214 (-55, #159) Mad Love (1935, Karl Freund), 418.69 points, 15 votes (IMDb)
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#213 (+19, #232) Otesánek (2000, Jan Svankmajer), 419.9 points, 10 votes (IMDb)
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#212 (-12, #200) The Tingler (1959, William Castle), 420.18 points, 14 votes (IMDb)
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#211 (-50, #161) Idi i smotri (1985, Elem Klimov), 431.71 points, 7 votes (IMDb)
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#210 (+37, #247) Ghostwatch (1992, Lesley Manning), 432.33 points, 11 votes (IMDb)
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#209 (-4, #205) Troll 2 (1990, Claudio Fragasso), 436.62 points, 9 votes (IMDb)
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Nov 19 2017, 09:26:26 AM
A list of 400 genuine horror movies would interest me.
You'd have to hold a poll on a horror-only forum I'm afraid. Lists like these rarely provide useful tips for genre fans.
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#208 (+13, #221) Neco z Alenky (1988, Jan Svankmajer), 441.42 points, 10 votes (IMDb)
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#207 (#new) The Incredible Shrinking Man (1957, Jack Arnold), 442.88 points, 13 votes (IMDb)
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#206 (-58, #148) A Clockwork Orange (1971, Stanley Kubrick), 451.6 points, 9 votes (IMDb)
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A lot of films in here that I would never consider a horror, like A Clockwork Orange, Come and See (even though it's deeply disturbing), War of the Worlds, etc. I feel like we're getting inconsistent data when we don't have strict rules on what constitutes a horror film.

Having A Clockwork Orange place highly on this list is like having The Lord of the Rings place highly on War films list. Yeah, there's a lot of battles in LOTR, but it's definitely not something that springs to mind when one thinks of war films.
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#205 (+13, #218) Donnie Darko (2001, Richard Kelly), 451.68 points, 9 votes (IMDb)
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#204 (#new) Wait Until Dark (1967, Terence Young), 454.94 points, 11 votes (IMDb)
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#203 (#new) Society (1989, Brian Yuzna), 456.94 points, 14 votes (IMDb)
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Nov 19 2017, 12:10:35 PM
sol
Nov 19 2017, 09:26:26 AM
A list of 400 genuine horror movies would interest me.
You'd have to hold a poll on a horror-only forum I'm afraid. Lists like these rarely provide useful tips for genre fans.
Surely there could be some way to filter the results so that only films listed as Horror on IMDb (or tagged as Horror on iCM) could get through? I mean, there'll be some problematic titles, like Jaws and Silence of the Lambs for which IMDb keeps deleting the Horror genre tag, but it seems a better solution than letting whatever science fiction and fantasy films people want to slip through as horror...
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sol
Nov 19 2017, 09:26:26 AM
A list of 400 genuine horror movies would interest me.
You'd have to hold a poll on a horror-only forum I'm afraid. Lists like these rarely provide useful tips for genre fans.
Surely there could be some way to filter the results so that only films listed as Horror on IMDb (or tagged as Horror on iCM) could get through? I mean, there'll be some problematic titles, like Jaws and Silence of the Lambs for which IMDb keeps deleting the Horror genre tag, but it seems a better solution than letting whatever science fiction and fantasy films people want to slip through as horror...
I don't agree. I think that list would have too many missing classics and would be vastly less interesting than the list we do have. Also would likely make the poll less likely to result in a final list in the 4-500 range.
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Well, as long as there are no rules to what movies people nominate, we can't really complain about the list either.

The sorted list would be very different form individual, as if you don't want action horror like Terminator, then why should horror comedies like Gremlins and Ghostbusters be on the list?

It's not like these movies are a fluke. More than 15% have voted for every rank, so they probably have some consensus to why.
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sol
Nov 19 2017, 09:26:26 AM
A list of 400 genuine horror movies would interest me.
You'd have to hold a poll on a horror-only forum I'm afraid. Lists like these rarely provide useful tips for genre fans.
Surely there could be some way to filter the results so that only films listed as Horror on IMDb (or tagged as Horror on iCM) could get through? I mean, there'll be some problematic titles, like Jaws and Silence of the Lambs for which IMDb keeps deleting the Horror genre tag, but it seems a better solution than letting whatever science fiction and fantasy films people want to slip through as horror...
I don't agree. I think that list would have too many missing classics and would be vastly less interesting than the list we do have. Also would likely make the poll less likely to result in a final list in the 4-500 range.
Not necessarily, unless the majority of participants have seen very few horror films. I mean, I intended to submit at least 100 films on my ballot before even composing it, so if certain films were not eligible, I would have replaced them with others. Which is not to say that everyone approaches listmaking this way, and yeah, I understand the benefits of making every film eligible, but as others have pointed out, the list is a lot less interesting to horror buffs such as myself when the results are so heavily diluted. If others like it like this, that's fine though! Just offering my two cents...
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Nov 19 2017, 12:44:31 PM
Surely there could be some way to filter the results so that only films listed as Horror on IMDb (or tagged as Horror on iCM) could get through?
Dunno, IMDb is quite generous with genre tags, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the outliers here have "horror" as a territiary genre tag. But a forum like this one doesn't have many "core" horror fans, so most people will list films that aren't suited for people who are looking for a "good horror experience".

I tried it myself yesterday, picked out Don't Look Now ... what a disaster that was.
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sol
Nov 19 2017, 12:44:31 PM
Surely there could be some way to filter the results so that only films listed as Horror on IMDb (or tagged as Horror on iCM) could get through?
Dunno, IMDb is quite generous with genre tags, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the outliers here have "horror" as a territiary genre tag. But a forum like this one doesn't have many "core" horror fans, so most people will list films that aren't suited for people who are looking for a "good horror experience".

I tried it myself yesterday, picked out Don't Look Now ... what a disaster that was.
The imdb definition is broad in that regard. It's all about the characters in the movie being frightened. The movie itself doesn't have to be frightening to the audience.
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I don't really see a problem with letting the consensus decide what constitutes horror or not. I certainly don't consider A Clockwork Orange (I do think The Terminator is though), but clearly enough people did to vote for it. Basing it on IMDB tags would be much more arbitrary really, because those aren't especially trustworthy most of the time (and can change), and I don't see any other solution than just letting people decide what they want to count as horror.

It's probably true that a dedicated horror fanbase would give a different list, but isn't that what TSZDT is for ?
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I don't really see a problem with letting the consensus decide what constitutes horror or not. I certainly don't consider A Clockwork Orange (I do think The Terminator is though), but clearly enough people did to vote for it. Basing it on IMDB tags would be much more arbitrary really, because those aren't especially trustworthy most of the time (and can change), and I don't see any other solution than just letting people decide what they want to count as horror.

It's probably true that a dedicated horror fanbase would give a different list, but isn't that what TSZDT is for ?
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