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Non-Russian Eastern European Challenge; Official: September 2012
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NON-RUSSIAN EASTERN EUROPEAN CHALLENGE

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Goal:
-Watch as many Eastern European films as possible.
-Any film made in Eastern Europe counts.

...Of course, there is quite a bit of disagreement over which countries constitute "Eastern European." For the purposes of this challenge, we're going to define "Eastern Europe" as:


  • The colored portions of the above map (excluding Russia.)
  • For older films, anything made in the non-USSR portion of the Eastern Bloc counts (so anything made in Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, etc.)
  • Films made in the USSR that were clearly made in a region that later became Eastern Europe (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Belarus, etc.)
  • Films financed outside Eastern Europe, but which were predominantly filmed in the region (The Pianist, for example.)

[*]Any film selected for the UNESCO list by one of the Eastern European countries.

-If you are unsure of whether a film counts or not, just ask. (Hopefully someone can help you.)

Rules:
- A feature film (Anything over 40 minutes) counts as one entry
- A total of 90 minutes of short films count as one entry
- For Mini-Series (40 minute episodes or longer) each episode counts as an entry.
- For Mini-Series with shorter episodes (25 minutes or so), the 90 minute rule applies.
- Re-watches not allowed.

Challenge runs from 1 September 2012 - 30 September 2012.

Official iCM lists:

The UNESCO list has sections devoted to several Eastern European countries (look at the country index in the description.)

Unofficial iCM lists: (feel free to suggest more)

BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA
National Film Archive of Bosnia and Herzegovina's 10 Best Bosnian Films

BULGARIA
Union of Bulgarian Filmmakers' Top 12 Bulgarian Films

CROATIA
Best Croatian Films

THE CZECH REPUBLIC AND SLOVAKIA
The Czech New Wave
Film Heritage's Top 50 Czech/Slovak Films
The Golden Foundation of Czech and Slovak Cinema
Czech and Slovak submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film

ESTONIA
Estonian Film 100

HUNGARY
Gelencser Gabor's Recommended Film List for Hungarian Film History
Filmmuzeums Greatest Hungarian Films
New Budapest 12
Hungarian submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film

POLAND
Polish Film Institute's 100 Years of Polish Cinema
Esensja's Top 50 Polish Films
Polish submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film

ROMANIA
Romanian Filmmakers Union & Movie Critics Association's Top 10 Romanian Films
Romanian submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film

SERBIA
Afun's Top 10 Serbian Films

SLOVENIA
Ekran's Top 10 Slovenian Films

YUGOSLAVIA
Yugoslav (and successor states) submissions for Best Foreign Language Film

GENERAL
100 Classics of Russian and Eastern European Cinema (obviously only the non-Russian films count)
Top 100 Eastern European Films

NON-ICM LISTS:
Kenji's Albania
Dmitri Psahos' Bulgarian Cinema
Belldandy's Outline of Czech Film History
Kenji's "A Rosefinch Sang: The Czechoslovak New Wave"
Mizoguchi's Essential Czech Films
Indrek's Estonian Cinema
Estonian Film Critics' Top 10
Kenji's Essential Hungarian Films
Mizoguchi's Essential Hungarian Films
Somnambulist's Contemporary Lithuanian Cinema
Somnamb​ulist's Lithuanian Cinema in 1960-1990
Krstarica Forum's Top 20 Serbian Films
Kenji's Poland
Kinoholik's The 100 best Polish films of all time
From Romania, with Love
Arsaib's Romanian New Wave
Redhimi​hai's Made in Romania
verdikt_abstract's Top 120 Romanian Movies
The Best of Yugoslavia
Bobby Wise's Yugoslav Black Wave
Pedja's The Best of Yugoslavia
Kenji's Eastern European Elixirs
The Fabulous World of Eastern European Cinema
Minalex's Top 100 Eastern European Films

Participants:
3eyes - 17
aces - 20
frbrown - 5
mjf314 - 29
nimimerkillinen - 2
themagician - 8
Timec - 8

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Edited by Timec, Oct 1 2012, 03:32:29 PM.
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What about films made in the part of the USSR that later became the Ukraine (e.g. Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors)? Do they count?
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I'm all for being as inclusive as possible. If it can be clearly identified as a Ukrainian film, rather than just a USSR film with a few Ukrainian cast members, then it should count. Paradjanov's film is in Ukrainian, which I think makes it sufficiently Ukrainian for it to count.

Would anyone have any objections if I changed the rules to include films made in the western USSR but not in the Russian language? I don't know how many films this would apply to, but that would allow for films made in Lithuanian, Latvian, Ukrainian, etc.
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I'm in. Here's a couple more lists:

http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/czech+new+wave/themagician/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/top+100+east+european+films/3eyes/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/100+classics+of+russian+and+eastern+european+cinema/timec/
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Ah well, let's not complicate matters by too much quibbling. So she proceeds to do so:

In some country-themed challenges, the following have counted:

-movies by a native director made outside the area (think Milos Forman or Roman Polanski; Arizona Dream (Emir Kustirica)

- movies set in the country or region but made outside it, e.g. The Pianist; Good evening, Mr. Wallenberg (but probably not Dracula)

What say ye?


Oh yeah, and I'm in - tho after watching 50 silents this month I'm going to take it easy. (I'm the leg at the lower right of the above picture).

Another list:

http://mubi.com/lists/the-best-of-yugoslavia
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Count me in.

A few more lists:

http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/estonian+film+100/kala/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/ekrans+top+10+slovenian+films/mjf314/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/new+budapest+12+2000/mjf314/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/najbolji+hrvatski+filmovi+svih+vremena/vextrigger/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/afuns+top+10+serbian+films/mjf314/
http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/the+national+film+archive+of+bosnia+and+herzegovinas+10+best+bosnian+films/mjf314/
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I'll participate.

There are a lot of non-critic lists on my spreadsheet that you might want to add to the first post. There's a general list, "Kenji's Eastern European Elixirs," and a lot of other lists for individual countries.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AhCbA3xledPhdHdsR2ZDZEozaXAtcHZtRTJCSFFRMWc&gid=14

There's also the Estonian Film Critics' Top 10: http://web.archive.org/web/20110720130140/http://tallinnfilm.ee/index.php?page=67

And the Krstarica Forum's Top 20 Serbian Films: http://forum.krstarica.com/showthread.php/251177-GLASANJE-150-najboljih-domacih-filmova?p=8318198&viewfull=1#post8318198
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Aug 28 2012, 02:00:27 PM
Ah well, let's not complicate matters by too much quibbling. So she proceeds to do so:

In some country-themed challenges, the following have counted:

-movies by a native director made outside the area (think Milos Forman or Roman Polanski; Arizona Dream (Emir Kustirica)

- movies set in the country or region but made outside it, e.g. The Pianist; Good evening, Mr. Wallenberg (but probably not Dracula)

What say ye?


Oh yeah, and I'm in - tho after watching 50 silents this month I'm going to take it easy. (I'm the leg at the lower right of the above picture).

Another list:

http://mubi.com/lists/the-best-of-yugoslavia
Delayed response, because I've been kind of debating with myself about this (I know it's not that important, but still...)

1. I'd kind of like to keep it to films actually made in the area. Directors like Polanski and Forman probably do keep something of an Eastern European "sensibility" in their work, but it would seem kind of weird to include something like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest for the challenge.

2. I'm okay with the second one, as long as a majority of the film takes place in the area.
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sounds reasonable to me.


A poem I wrote (Published in Danse Macabre):

Film night

I couldn’t watch the movie,
the Hungarian was so badly dubbed.
So what if the only Hungarian I know
is Frig hangsor, "Phrygian mode"?
I still know bad dubbing when I see it.

How do I know if the subtitle writers
were listening or lip-reading or just
making it up? One of the characters
is probably a ventriloquist.
I bet they’re telling each other
hoary jokes out of the book
that came with my brother’s dummy—
he’d saved his pennies for months
against the day when he could regale us
with "I was born in Chicago." "Before
the fire?" "No, behind the sofa."

Meanwhile in a lonely castle
in the Transylvanian mountains
a door creaks, and the hero
screws up his courage to look inside
and shrieks— "It’s a friggin’ hamster!"
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Meanwhile in a lonely castle
in the Transylvanian mountains
a door creaks, and the hero
screws up his courage to look inside
and shrieks— "It’s a friggin’ hamster!"

Yes, but it's not a normal hamster. It's A KILLER HAMSTER FROM SPACE !!!

Sorry, feeling silly today. :P
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Is anyone familiar with the movies Jerzy Hoffman made from the novels of Henryk Sienkiewicz? What order should I watch them in? The earliest film is based on the last novel in the trilogy, and the last film, With Fire and Sword, is based on the first novel!
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1. The Return of the Prodigal Son (1967) / Czech Republic
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I'll watch a few.
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The Trap is a great Serbo-Croatian Movie and available on Netflix streaming.

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Is anyone familiar with the movies Jerzy Hoffman made from the novels of Henryk Sienkiewicz? What order should I watch them in? The earliest film is based on the last novel in the trilogy, and the last film, With Fire and Sword, is based on the first novel!


I'd watch them in novel order (With Fire and Sword first). I don't know these but I have seen Jerzy Kawalerowicz's miniseries of Quo Vadis.


1. Promised land / Ziemia obiecana (Pol 75)
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1. A Report on the Party and the Guests (1966)
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1. A Generation (1955)
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3. The red and the white (Hung 68)
4. The Emperor's nightingale (Cz 49)

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2. Diamonds of the Night (1964) / Czech Republic

Aaaaand an instant favorite.

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Is Mephisto (1981) eligible for this challenge? IMDb lists it as a West Germany / Hungary / Austria co-production.
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I don't think it really fits the rules, since it's in German and was made in Germany. Even though it was made by a Hungarian director...
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2. Kanal (Wajda, 1957)
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Actually, about Mephisto...

I notice that it was one of Hungary's selections for the UNESCO list, which makes me think that the Hungarian claim to it is probably fairly strong.

I think it would make sense to make an exception that any film that an Eastern European country selects for the UNESCO list should count (I doubt it will affect eligibility for very many films anyways.)
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5. Larks on a string / Skrivánci na niti (Cz 90)

A delightful movie on a grim subject - set in a rehabilitation camp in the early days of Communism in Czechoslovakia. The date is misleading - it was actually made during the Prague Spring of 1968, but by the time it was finished the liberalization was over and the film was banned until after the fall of the Communist government in 1989.

6. Innocence unprotected (Yugo 68)
This is a sort of collage woven around Yugoslavia's first talkie of the same title, made in 1942 under the nose of the occupying Germans. The principals were punished in various ways, the film secretly buried. This film intersperses scenes from the original film (most of it, I guess) with newsreel footage, interviews with surviving people involved in the original film, and more. The original movie is hilariously awful!




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3. Carriage to Vienna (1966) / Czech Republic

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1. 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (2007, Romania)
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4. Lemonade Joe (1964) / Czech Republic

Interesting. Entertaining. Bizarre. Worth a watch. Had potential to be a lot better though.

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7. The shop on Main Street (Cz 65)

I'd been resisting watching this for years, I don't know why. The first hour was delightful, and I'd have been settling in for a merry romp if I hadn't been sure that, being a Holocaust film, it was bound to end badly. Not fiction by Miss Prism's definition.* And it did, though on the whole it was still a delight.

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5. My 20th Century (1989)
6. The Goat Horn (1972)
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3. Romania - 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days / 4 luni, 3 saptamani si 2 zile (2007) 7/10
4. Hungary - The Turin Horse / A Torinoi lo (2011) 9.5/10


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7. Diamonds of the Night (1964)
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8. Eroica (Pol 58)

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5. The Red and the White (1967) / Hungary

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2. Do You Remember Dolly Bell? (1981. Yugoslavia [Bosnia-Herzegovina])

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