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German Challenge (Official); November 2015
Topic Started: Oct 30 2015, 05:01:41 PM (3,051 Views)
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Goal:

Watch as many films in German as possible! (Germany, Austria, Switzerland accepted)


Rules:

- Rewatches allowed and encouraged
- A feature film (Anything 40 minutes or over) counts as one entry
- A total of 60 minutes of short films count as one entry
- For Mini-Series (40 minute episodes or longer) each episode counts as an entry
- For Mini-Series with shorter episodes, the 60 minute rule applies

Challenge runs from November 1st, 2015 to November 30th, 2015


Official iCM Lists:

The 100 Most Significant German Films
UNESCO - 259-273 are German; 32-53 are Austrian; 699-713 are Swiss (not all of the Swiss films are German-language)

Other Lists:

German:
NDR's Top 100 German Films
Exploring German movies
Winners of the german national film award (Lola)
German submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film
Outstanding german movies since 1990
Top 20 German Must-See Movies of the 21. Century

Austrian:
Austrian submissions for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Language Film
CFB's Top 20 Austrian Films
austrian films


iCM Forum's Favourite German Films
Top 75 German/Austrian Films as Voted by RYMers


Eligible films from our new 500<400 list:

#31 Unter den Brücken 1946 — a.k.a. Under the Bridges
#50 Asphalt 1929
#59 Museum Hours 2012
#71 Ich möchte kein Mann sein 1918 — a.k.a. I Don't Want to Be a Man
#95 Sterne 1959 — a.k.a. Stars
#99 Die freudlose Gasse 1925 — a.k.a. The Joyless Street
#112 Die Mörder sind unter uns 1946 — a.k.a. Murderers Among Us
#119 Chinesisches Roulette 1976 — a.k.a. Chinese Roulette
#133 Angst vor der Angst 1975
#170 Die 1000 Augen des Dr. Mabuse 1960 — a.k.a. The Shadow vs. the Thousand Eyes of Dr. Mabuse
#189 Es geschah am hellichten Tag 1958 — a.k.a. It Happened in Broad Daylight
#191 Maskerade 1934 — a.k.a. Masquerade in Vienna
#221 Warum läuft Herr R. Amok 1970 — a.k.a. Why Does Herr R. Run Amok?
#229 Höhenfeuer 1985 — a.k.a. Alpine Fire
#243 Kameradschaft 1931 — a.k.a. Comradeship
#255 Chronik der Anna Magdalena Bach 1968 — a.k.a. The Chronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach
#308 Die Parallelstrasse 1962
#317 Alle Anderen 2009 — a.k.a. Everyone Else
#335 Ludwig 1972
#360 Katzelmacher 1969
#373 Hundstage 2001 — a.k.a. Dog Days
#415 Der junge Törless 1966 — a.k.a. Young Torless
#425 Liebelei 1933 — a.k.a. Flirtation
#437 Mutter Küsters' Fahrt zum Himmel 1975 — a.k.a. Mother Küsters Goes to Heaven
#457 Der freie Wille 2006 — a.k.a. The Free Will
#459 Große Freiheit Nr. 7 1944 — a.k.a. Port of Freedom
#467 Varieté 1925 — a.k.a. Jealousy
#475 Abschied von gestern - (Anita G.) 1966 — a.k.a. Yesterday Girl
#500 Die Bergkatze 1921 — a.k.a. The Wildcat

Past editions for inspiration: 2013 and 2014.

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Naturally I'm in. I've been saving Die andere Heimat for this occasion for what feels like forever.
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Are you in, oder aus?

I'm in, I'll watch some Fass.
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3 German films are in my watch ASAP list.
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Eh, in. Won't be watching a lot, probably one or two. You've been warned.
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Eligible 500<400 films (could you add them to the opening post?):

#31 Unter den Brücken 1946 — a.k.a. Under the Bridges
#50 Asphalt 1929
#59 Museum Hours 2012
#71 Ich möchte kein Mann sein 1918 — a.k.a. I Don't Want to Be a Man
#95 Sterne 1959 — a.k.a. Stars
#99 Die freudlose Gasse 1925 — a.k.a. The Joyless Street
#112 Die Mörder sind unter uns 1946 — a.k.a. Murderers Among Us
#119 Chinesisches Roulette 1976 — a.k.a. Chinese Roulette
#133 Angst vor der Angst 1975
#170 Die 1000 Augen des Dr. Mabuse 1960 — a.k.a. The Shadow vs. the Thousand Eyes of Dr. Mabuse
#189 Es geschah am hellichten Tag 1958 — a.k.a. It Happened in Broad Daylight
#191 Maskerade 1934 — a.k.a. Masquerade in Vienna
#221 Warum läuft Herr R. Amok 1970 — a.k.a. Why Does Herr R. Run Amok?
#229 Höhenfeuer 1985 — a.k.a. Alpine Fire
#243 Kameradschaft 1931 — a.k.a. Comradeship
#255 Chronik der Anna Magdalena Bach 1968 — a.k.a. The Chronicle of Anna Magdalena Bach
#308 Die Parallelstrasse 1962
#317 Alle Anderen 2009 — a.k.a. Everyone Else
#335 Ludwig 1972
#360 Katzelmacher 1969
#373 Hundstage 2001 — a.k.a. Dog Days
#415 Der junge Törless 1966 — a.k.a. Young Torless
#425 Liebelei 1933 — a.k.a. Flirtation
#437 Mutter Küsters' Fahrt zum Himmel 1975 — a.k.a. Mother Küsters Goes to Heaven
#457 Der freie Wille 2006 — a.k.a. The Free Will
#459 Große Freiheit Nr. 7 1944 — a.k.a. Port of Freedom
#467 Varieté 1925 — a.k.a. Jealousy
#475 Abschied von gestern - (Anita G.) 1966 — a.k.a. Yesterday Girl
#500 Die Bergkatze 1921 — a.k.a. The Wildcat
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HVM, I'm not sure but it may be those pictures at the top that are making this page super wide. I have a choice between scrolling back and forth horizontally or shrinking to the point where my aged eyes can hardly read the type. Are others experiencing the same?
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Oct 31 2015, 03:04:32 PM
HVM, I'm not sure but it may be those pictures at the top that are making this page super wide. I have a choice between scrolling back and forth horizontally or shrinking to the point where my aged eyes can hardly read the type. Are others experiencing the same?
Was sagst du? Did you experience this problem yesterday, 3eyes (I've updated the OP today with Melvelet's kindly provided links)? Anyone else with this issue? I can always change anything, but at the same time I'm proud of meine kleine Collage, which I don't believe is really behind the trouble. :shrug:
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Oct 31 2015, 05:51:25 PM
3eyes
Oct 31 2015, 03:04:32 PM
HVM, I'm not sure but it may be those pictures at the top that are making this page super wide. I have a choice between scrolling back and forth horizontally or shrinking to the point where my aged eyes can hardly read the type. Are others experiencing the same?
Was sagst du? Did you experience this problem yesterday, 3eyes (I've updated the OP today with Melvelet's kindly provided links)? Anyone else with this issue? I can always change anything, but at the same time I'm proud of meine kleine Collage, which I don't believe is really behind the trouble. :shrug:
Well, I do have to scroll to read your message, mine, your collage, and the quote button. Why that is I don't know, but I reckon I can live with it.
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I'm in. Going for 10! :) Probably end with 15-20.
Edited by Lakigigar, Nov 1 2015, 05:51:46 AM.
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I'm in. Going for 10! :)
You mean zehn?
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I'm in. Going for 10! :)
welcome to the forums! hope you enjoy your stay.
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Nov 1 2015, 04:35:51 AM
I'm in. Going for 10! :)
welcome to the forums! hope you enjoy your stay.
thanks.

Made my shortlist. :). I recommend victoria for everyone else who didn't see the movie this year, but i bet most of you already did it.
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HVM, UNSERE Liste fehlt! ;)
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/icm+forums+favourite+german+films/mightysparks/
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Weiß nicht. Vielleicht. Ich hab schließlich sonst keine
Filmglotzpläne dieses Monat, und zwar zum ersten Mal in diesem Jahr! Außer dass
ich endlich mal die Freiheit hab mir all genau jene Filme ansehen zu können die
ich am meisten sehen will, und genau das werde ich im November auch tun! Da
ist glaub ich nicht sehr viel Deutsches dabei. Aber Veit Harlan kommt mir in den
Sinn, dessen Filmographie will ich erkunden. Und Ophüls 'Liebelei'. Und vielleicht
ein Willi Forst. Lauter alte Schinken also. *lachend am Boden herumkullern*

Also sagen wir halt Ja, ich bin mit von der Partie.
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I'm in as well. I have a bunch of Fritz Lang and Fassbinder films that I need to watch. I hope I'll finally be able to watch Berlin Alexanderplatz as well.
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01. Die Moerder Sind Unter Uns (1946) (Wolfgang Staudte)
The first film to be made in Germany after World War II. Shot right in the ruins of post-war Berlin. It starts out as a romantic drama which doesn't really work but the message it delivers about war criminals is powerful.
3/5
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02. Es Geschah am Hellichten Tag (1958) (Ladislao Vajda)
Based on the same book as The Pledge with Jack Nicholson (Das Versprechen). Haven't seen that one but I'm pretty sure this one is superior. Tension build-up is good. Especially once Frobe's character appears on screen.
4/5
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01. Die Welle (2006) 7/10

A rewatch from a movie i've seen as a child. :)
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1. Die Nibelungen: Siegfried (1924) Fritz Lang 8/10

A very good epic story told in a very interesting way by Lang. Paul Richter as Siegfried is really amazing. I liked the exuberant acting in the film, since it was suitable to the whole vibe of the film and the wondeful visuals. As you can see I wasn't flabbergasted by it, but I still think it's a wonderful film. Can't wait to see the second part of the epic story.

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I should probably get around to watching the Heimats. Also, if there's any official German noir, I'm in. I wonder how much from Robert Siodmak (early German films) I haven't watched yet.
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Nights when the devil comes and Murderers are among us count.
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I've already seen Murderers Are Among Us, but I will check out that other recommendation. Thanks.
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Also, if there's any official German noir, I'm in.
You mean on official lists? There are the two films that Harco watched, Peter Lorre's Der Verlorene, and Siodmak's Nachts, wenn der Teufel kam. Of course, many Expressionist films are proto-noir. Siodmak's Voruntersuchung, from 1931, is pretty noirish, but it's not an official check.
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I might check out Voruntersuchung anyway, especially since it's Siodmak. Have seen Der Verlorene. Wasn't too impressed despite my love for Peter Lorre. And now I have Nachts lined up.
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1. Höhenfeuer 1985 — a.k.a. Alpine Fire 8/10
Nice-looking, calm (maybe sombre) film about the life of a Swiss family living in the isolation of the alps. Deserves its 500<400 position (or it should climb!).

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1. Der müde Tod (1921) (Destiny/Between Two Worlds)
x. Wintergartenprogramm (1895) (6min)

starting the month @ #1249 on the 100 Most Significant German Films list w/ 17/102.
I'm not at 19/102.
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1. Schloß Vogelöd (1921) F.W. Murnau (7/10)
2. Phantom (1922) F.W. Murnau (8/10)

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It was really nice seeing these two back to back to see how fast Murnau's talent and cinema itself was evolving. In Schloß Vogelöd, you can still sense the cinematic simplicity of the 1910's, albeit done well and with some wonderful framing, but in Phantom, Murnau is doing some marvelously creative things that foreshadow his later masterpieces.
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1. Schloß Vogelöd (1921) F.W. Murnau (7/10)
2. Phantom (1922) F.W. Murnau (8/10)

It was really nice seeing these two back to back to see how fast Murnau's talent and cinema was evolving. In Schloß Vogelöd, you can still sense the cinematic simplicity of the 1910's, albeit done well and with some wonderful framing, but in Phantom, Murnau is doing some marvelously creative things that foreshadow his later masterpieces.
the same years and the same thought about Lang. I watched Destiny and thought it was alright but there was such a vast improvement between it and his next film, the next year, Dr. Mabuse.
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1. Schloß Vogelöd (1921) F.W. Murnau (7/10)
2. Phantom (1922) F.W. Murnau (8/10)

It was really nice seeing these two back to back to see how fast Murnau's talent and cinema was evolving. In Schloß Vogelöd, you can still sense the cinematic simplicity of the 1910's, albeit done well and with some wonderful framing, but in Phantom, Murnau is doing some marvelously creative things that foreshadow his later masterpieces.
the same years and the same thought about Lang. I watched Destiny and thought it was alright but there was such a vast improvement between it and his next film, the next year, Dr. Mabuse.
Yep, I never watched those two back to back, but Mabuse is such a modern film compared to Destiny. It's crazy how fast cinema evolved between 1920-1927, it's probably the fastest evolution of an art form on record. It was downhill from there for quite a few years after that though.
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1. Unser täglich Brot / Our Daily Bread (2005)
2. Die Befreiung von Auschwitz / Liberation of Auschwitz 1945 (1986)

I am stretching it a bit with both of these films as the first is an Austrian movie with no dialog and the second is a German movie with English narration.

Our Daily Bread contains footage of large scale highly mechanized food production. It shows both the assembly lines and occasionally workers just talking or taking breaks. The whole movie highlights various processes like the one in Baraka with the baby chickens moving on conveyor belts. The style (no narrative) reminded me a lot of the Leviathan documentary and also Sweetgrass. Workers spray chemicals and pick vegetables from mega monoculture farms and greenhouses. Animals including chickens, fish, pigs, and cows are processed and slaughtered by specialized machines. If I was not already a vegan then this film might have been the final straw to convince me. If if still liked eating animals maybe this film would have left me marvelling at the efficiency involved in killing them. Everybody will have a different reaction depending on their worldview. I suspect that even hardcore carnivores will at least think about this film the next time they eat their hamburgers or bacon.

The other film was a Holocaust movie with footage from a Soviet cameraman. A lot of the images I had not seen before. Some of the numbers in the film were startling when they quantified how many pairs of shoes were found (15 million) or men's suits (300,000) or the money generated daily by melting all the gold down from the teeth (I forget). Hair from all the victims was stored in sacks to be turned into felt and yarn. The crematoriums and much of the evidence had been destroyed but they still found paperwork and artifacts later used as evidence during the war crimes trials. The worst footage was the mass graves and images of autopsies being done on the emaciated bodies or the doctors inspecting victims of horrendous medical tests.

Both of these films are on the "Real Life Horrors" list and watching them in succession really was a depressing experience. Animal rights groups are often criticized for calling the mass killing of animals a holocaust but when 56 billions animals are slaughtered every year I am not surprised by the comparisons.
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3. Der Kongreß Tanzt (1931) Erik Charell (9/10)

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Like biting into a wonderful piece of Sachertorte, sweet and utterly delightful. One of Kurosawa's favorite movies. I'll share it through WeTransfer, because it's a ton of fun and should be on next years 400<500.

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1. Paradies: Liebe (2012) - Weirdly fascinating. It's strange to think this is a real thing people participate in. I've seen another film in this trilogy, Hope, and I'll watch Faith sometime this month. This film is very nice to look at, and it's an interesting subject.

2. Barbara (2012) - Around the halfway point I was bored. I just wasn't invested in these characters at all and wanted the film to be over. The film isn't necessarily bad, I just didn't connect.
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2. Sterne 1959 — a.k.a. Stars 8/10
Powerful drama about a Nazi (petty) officer trying to preserve his humanity. Like Höhenfeuer I had missed it when it was FotW and I'm quite glad I watched it now. Includes quite a few impressive and haunting shots.

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2. Die Nibelungen: Kriemhilds Rache (1924) Fritz Lang 8/10

It wasn't as good as the first one, but still a very good film. The story was not as strong since there is a focus on the fights after one point in the film. The problem is that the fights are not choreographed in a very good way, at least judging by modern standards.

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Wetransfer link for Der Kongreß Tanzt: http://we.tl/66NBvF3pzK
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1. Die gläserne Zelle / The Glass Cell (Geissendörfer, 1978)
Read the Patricia Highsmith book this is based on over the weekend so thought I'd check the film out, which has been sitting on my computer a while. Hard to resist comparing to the book and while it's understandable they left out nearly all the really bleak first section of the book (where the protagonist is in prison), you don't have the same sense of his character's development without it. The film does do reasonably well at getting the Highsmith kind of mood as it builds through suspicion to murder.

Highsmith must've been in vogue in Germany at the time, with Wenders' American Friend made at similar time - the two films also share in common Robby Muller as cinematographer.
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