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iCM Forum Film World Cup Final: Spain vs Poland; Voting deadline: November 25
Topic Started: Nov 12 2015, 09:15:42 AM (3,925 Views)
mjf314
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This is the final match of the iCM Forum Film World Cup.

SpainvPoland
El sur (1983)vAmator (1979)
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Voting Rules:
- You must watch both films before you vote.
- To vote, rank the 2 films from most favorite to least favorite. (note: you're ranking the individual films, not the countries)

The film with more #1 votes wins. If there's a tie, the match will be extended 3 days.

Here's a quick summary of how the tournament works
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Now that is what I call a final!
It's so hard to choose which one is better... Both of them are favorites, but my gut feeling is steering me towards Amator. My love for Krzysztof Kieslowski is so strong that I simply cannot vote against him.
I don't judge based on their filmography though. I remember being a bit more enthusiastic about Amator. Kieslowski's direction style in Amator is the winning factor for me. Great choices guys!

1. Amator 9/10
2. El sur 9/10
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Nov 12 2015, 09:47:29 AM
My love for Krzysztof Kieslowski is so strong that I simply cannot vote against him.
I feel the other way around... But I haven't seen El sur yet and Amator is probably my favorite Kieslowski so far.
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After so much B/W... it turns out we have a colour final.
Edited by sortile9io, Nov 12 2015, 10:48:58 AM.
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I've seen El Sur years ago and rated it 7/10. Maybe I'll rewatch it if I'm not sure enough about Amator after I watched it.
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1. El sur (1983) 7/10
2. Amator (1979) 7-/10

I still have to see Kieslowski's major works (starting from Decalogue) but so far I have a hard time getting inot his oeuvre...
This is probably one of the least obscure matches in the WC, yet I'm not particularly enthusiastic about either of the films :ph43r:

At least I've managed to vote in half of the WC matches. :sweat:
Edited by Melvelet, Nov 12 2015, 11:43:59 AM.
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Unfortunately, this is my least favorite Erice.

1. Amator
2. El Sur
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Kasparius
Nov 12 2015, 01:12:58 PM
Unfortunately, this is my least favorite Erice.

1. Amator
2. El Sur
The point is the worst of the 3 features of Erice still outclasses the best of many directors.
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zhangalan
Nov 12 2015, 02:19:51 PM
Kasparius
Nov 12 2015, 01:12:58 PM
Unfortunately, this is my least favorite Erice.

1. Amator
2. El Sur
The point is the worst of the 3 features of Erice still outclasses the best of many directors.
Yes, just not Amator.
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1. El sur (Spain)
2. Amator (Poland)
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1. Amator
2. El Sur

looks like it'll be a close one. This was a fairly easy decision for me. I didn't particularly click with El Sur but Amator is a definite favourite.
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I updated the ICM list of the whole WC including links to all threads of each match:
https://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/icm+forum+world+cup+season+1/joachimt/
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1. Amator
2. El sur
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Poland takes an early lead
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1. Amator 8/10
2. El sur 5/10 (what's the deal about this?)
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Ouch, Poland leads by three points, I bet Erice doesn't feel like a victor right now.
Edited by Kasparius, Nov 13 2015, 09:09:40 PM.
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Nov 13 2015, 08:54:59 PM
Ouch, Poland leads by two points,
Three points actually.
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joachimt
Nov 13 2015, 09:05:44 PM
Kasparius
Nov 13 2015, 08:54:59 PM
Ouch, Poland leads by two points,
Three points actually.
What a nice victory that will be: a man with camera seals the opponent's destiny and show who's the filmmaking boss here. :lol:
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El Sur Posted Image 2 - 5 Posted Image Amator
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Close match for me.

1. El Sur - A bit slow, but very atmospheric - 7/10
2. Amator - Liked the social commentary in it, but felt too stagy - 7/10
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1. El Sur
2. Amator
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Damn, it's not el sure thing anymore...
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Shouldn't the final match be announced in the forum header? :whistling:
Edited by jvv, Nov 14 2015, 10:05:01 PM.
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1. El Sur
2. Amator
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1. El Sur 8.0
2. Amator 7.5
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El Sur Posted Image 6 - 5 Posted Image Amator
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:whistling:
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Spanish-speaking mafia & their hitmen are conquering this site.
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01. El Sur

02. Amator

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5 votes in a row for Spain.
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zuma
Nov 15 2015, 05:16:53 PM
01. El Sur

02. Amator

I know it was you Fredo. You broke my heart. (u)



I'm conflicted because I really like Erice, but didn't care for El Sur.
Edited by Kasparius, Nov 15 2015, 07:08:03 PM.
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1. Amator
2. El sur

The last line of Amator :'( Didn't really care for El Sur. It took me a few days to finish watching the film.
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Nov 15 2015, 07:19:26 PM
The last line of Amator :'( Didn't really care for El Sur. It took me a few days to finish watching the film.
I watched it in a single day, but it felt like a week. Gotta be some Latin thing, as I see this same obsession with slow, period melodramas about long-lost somethings across the much of the Spanish-speaking world.
Edited by Mario Gaborović, Nov 15 2015, 07:31:59 PM.
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Nov 15 2015, 07:07:13 PM
zuma
Nov 15 2015, 05:16:53 PM
01. El Sur

02. Amator

I know it was you Fredo. You broke my heart. (u)



I'm conflicted because I really like Erice, but didn't care for El Sur.

They are both favourites of mine. Close to a coin toss.

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1. Amator (1979): 9.0 - the last film I watched for this WC was one of the best in it.
2. El sur (1983): 7.5 - Just like with The Spirit of the Beehive, I can see this is a very well made movie, I get what Erice is going for as well as in plot as in mood and is succeeding in doing that, but I'm just not personally blown away by it it enough to rate it higher.
Edited by Lonewolf2003, Nov 17 2015, 10:55:28 AM.
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Mario Gaborović
Nov 15 2015, 07:31:12 PM
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Nov 15 2015, 07:19:26 PM
The last line of Amator :'( Didn't really care for El Sur. It took me a few days to finish watching the film.
I watched it in a single day, but it felt like a week. Gotta be some Latin thing, as I see this same obsession with slow, period melodramas about long-lost somethings across the much of the Spanish-speaking world.
I first came across "El Sur" long ago on TV at night and fell asleep before the first half hour had concluded. But then, a few years later I tried it again with the proper mood and was fascinated. I will rewatch it now in HD hoping to appreciate new details.
Edited by sortile9io, Nov 17 2015, 02:32:06 PM.
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1. Amator
2. El sur

They're both good but I preferred Amator.
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