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iCM forum's favorite Nordic movies; Nominations: Deadline August 15th
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iCM Forum's Favourite Nordic Movies
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The deadline is 15th August 2016
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  • Shorts, mini-series and TV-episodes from anthology series where the episodes are unrelated, are allowed. Tv-series aren't allowed.*
    *Imdb will be leading in this, but if you have good arguments exceptions to the rule can be made in consultation
  • Imdb-lists or iCM-lists are accepted. (If you can't make one of those, ask another user to help you out.)
  • Lists can be any length.
  • Each nominee can only be named once (of course)
  • Your list may be ranked, unranked, or partially-ranked. In a partially-ranked list, the top X films are ranked and everything after that point is unranked. When not specified I will consider a list as ranked.
  • In case of coproduction, if you're unsure if a movie is eligible, please post here.

List length and halflife to be decided later. Probably 150 and 25.

List of eligible countries:
Denmark
Faroe Islands
Finland
Greenland
Iceland
Norway
Sweden

Some help:
Movies you rated on IMDb from country X, sorted by your rating

Official iCM lists

participants: 38
Edited by joachimt, Aug 16 2016, 10:59:31 AM.
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Add Greenland too. There's nowhere else it could be put.
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I can already see the co-productions fucking me up. Would Jauja count? I'm not gonna count Marker's The Last Bolshevik nor Essential Killing.

If I only count favourites my list will have 14 films :lol: that's disappointing.
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Mario Gaborović
Jul 27 2016, 03:47:31 PM
Add Greenland too. There's nowhere else it could be put.
Lammetje said so as well.
Objections anyone?
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I added Greenland. Has anyone seen any movies from Greenland?
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I Know this Movie but i won't add it :)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1576402/combined
Edited by Smoover, Jul 27 2016, 04:03:45 PM.
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http://www.imdb.com/list/ls063393001
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My list: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls063393515/
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joachimt
Jul 27 2016, 03:59:46 PM
I added Greenland. Has anyone seen any movies from Greenland?
One awful (Nuummioq), one mediocre film (Qaqqat Alanngui) and considerably good Heart of Light is all what's available/translated. There's also Inuk and doc Sumé: Mumisitsinerup nipaa which are currently nowhere to be found. That's all I know of.
Basically they make baby steps in filmmaking, but still steps.
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http://www.imdb.com/list/ls063393549/

I still am slowly doing my goal of getting to the top 25 of every country list. I was doing it by highest ranking, but maybe I'll just jump to the few Scandinavian lists. 37 is too small
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Ranked:

http://www.imdb.com/list/ls063393024/
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My favourite Ingmar Bergman Scandinavian films
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Two more useful lists:

Nordic movies on Official ICM Lists
Norwegian films in official lists
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Finland and Iceland aren't Scandinavia though. But we share so much history so it is sensible to keep us together. The exact term for these 5 countries are "Nordic countries"

By the way: Åland Islands (under Finland) is also autonomous like Greenland and Faroe Islands, but I haven't heard anything about them making movies there.

unofficial Lists on icm - Norway
Edited by albajos, Jul 27 2016, 05:49:21 PM.
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joachimt
Jul 27 2016, 03:59:46 PM
I added Greenland. Has anyone seen any movies from Greenland?
There's only 10. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greenlandic_films
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Jul 27 2016, 05:11:32 PM
joachimt
Jul 27 2016, 03:59:46 PM
I added Greenland. Has anyone seen any movies from Greenland?
There's only 10. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greenlandic_films
Eksperimentet, Qivitoq and Uuttoq - Kaali på sælfangst are Danish films shot in Greenland, that's -3 already. But it isn't updated with Qaqqat Alanngui so the final count is 8.
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http://www.imdb.com/list/ls063393160/
Edited by Smoover, Jul 27 2016, 05:44:13 PM.
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Jul 27 2016, 05:42:48 PM
Borgman is Dutch.
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Jul 27 2016, 06:00:26 PM
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Jul 27 2016, 05:42:48 PM
Borgman is Dutch.
True :)
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What are we gonna do with Trier? Which of his films are elligible?
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Jul 27 2016, 06:25:02 PM
What are we gonna do with Trier? Which of his films are elligible?
None because they're all garbage.
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Jul 27 2016, 06:35:43 PM
kingink
Jul 27 2016, 06:25:02 PM
What are we gonna do with Trier? Which of his films are elligible?
None because they're all garbage.
Hehe, he did make a great mini-series though.
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Jul 27 2016, 06:35:43 PM
kingink
Jul 27 2016, 06:25:02 PM
What are we gonna do with Trier? Which of his films are elligible?
None because they're all garbage.
He does a great job running the world cup, though.
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Jul 27 2016, 07:10:45 PM
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Jul 27 2016, 06:35:43 PM
kingink
Jul 27 2016, 06:25:02 PM
What are we gonna do with Trier? Which of his films are elligible?
None because they're all garbage.
He does a great job running the world cup, though.
:lol:
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Which Trier movies are borderline?
Take Melancholia for example. Since it's English spoken and has Hollywood stars in it, you might think it's an Hollywood movie. But...
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Country: Denmark | Sweden | France | Germany

I don't know why I shouldn't allow it.
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kingink
Jul 27 2016, 06:25:02 PM
What are we gonna do with Trier? Which of his films are elligible?
Since Zentropa Entertainments is the main production company on all of them, I personally would allow all of them.

My list:
Top 163 - ranked - albajos
But I really need to see more from Iceland and Finland. Only 2 from each.
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My list:
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls063391894/
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Finland and Iceland are not part of Scandinavia. :)
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my ranked list: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls063396060/; thanks. For the record, i'm not going to include english-language von Trier films.
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I'm looking forward to seeing a Making of in a list other than the documentary list.

http://www.imdb.com/list/ls063396160/
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Jul 27 2016, 07:45:36 PM
For the record, i'm not going to include english-language von Trier films.
So for the record, to what countries do you assign these movies to?
For example:
Antichrist was filmed in Germany and is entirely English spoken.
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Country: Denmark | Germany | France | Sweden | Italy | Poland

So is it a German movie?
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I'm looking forward to seeing a Making of in a list other than the documentary list.

http://www.imdb.com/list/ls063396160/
The Look of Silence seems like an Indonesian movie to me.
Borgman is Dutch.
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Is Night on Earth accepted?
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Jul 27 2016, 09:21:14 PM
Is Night on Earth accepted?
Of course not.
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joachimt
Jul 27 2016, 08:25:36 PM
Carmel98
Jul 27 2016, 07:45:36 PM
For the record, i'm not going to include english-language von Trier films.
So for the record, to what countries do you assign these movies to?
For example:
Antichrist was filmed in Germany and is entirely English spoken.
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Country: Denmark | Germany | France | Sweden | Italy | Poland

So is it a German movie?
I'm most inclined to go by the language spoken in the film (using that definition, 'Antichrist' would be "english", not American, British or whatever, but "english"), but that's problematic for films with multiple languages. Anyway, with 'Antichrist' specifically, for me, the place where it was filmed is irrelevant - it's obviously meant as an "abstract", "abject", "universal", "outside" place given the content of the film, and it's called the Garden of Eden if I remember correct. You could say similar things for 'Melancholia' and 'Dogville' (even if this masterpiece specifically references American culture, politics and history).
So I'd say that his films go beyond "national belonging" and like many others they're produced by several countries. But if one has to simplify for the purposes of a poll, like I said, I usually go by the language in which the characters think and communicate (and if there aren't any, then that's most likely an experimental film, so the artist's country takes precedence).

By just looking at some films in themselves, it's often impossible to infer the production countries or the nationality of the director/writer if one hasn't checked it prior or after watching them. With these films, it's difficult to attempt to say how exactly "Country: Germany" translates into it, what's there within it that "makes" it "German". Through such criteria, by looking at the film "purely", the label of a country loses its meaning. Lars von Trier makes such films.
Of course, for example in 'Breaking the Waves', if it weren't for its location, accents and so on, it would lose some of the things that makes it distinctive, but to come back to the op, those things aren't "Danish", or "from Denmark" or bearing "Denmark's national spirit" or whatever, rather, they're features of a country and its people (I'd guess that's "Scotland") that have been used, combined, created and chosen by Lars von Trier. It's his film, not Denmark's.
In other types of films, a historical, national or production's context is indispensable, then it's much easier to assign a country to a film; but fortunately Lars von Trier doesn't make such films and subsequently it's unnecessary to do that.

Just like some people (myself included) don't consider themselves as having some "national identity", some films don't need to have one either.

Sorry for a long-winded tedious argument, so to answer your question directly: none; I don't assign his (and other) films to "countries"*, unless for a fun country poll, but in that case that's simplification and misrepresentation.
*Rather, I assign films to the people that made them. :shrug:
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And ther people that made them is Zentropa, a danish production company.

Just look at the Norwegian film Into the White. As it is about german and british soldiers that got stuck together in a cabin in the mountains in Norway during WWII not a single word of norwegian is spoken. But it's shot in Norway, it's part of Norwegian war history, and using the original languages instead of accents (yes, I'm looking at you, USA) makes it more real and beliveable.
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Jul 27 2016, 09:21:14 PM
Is Night on Earth accepted?
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Country: France | UK | Germany | USA | Japan

What makes you think it is?
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Just noticed this poll is now called "favorite Nordic countries". Ah well, whatever. Just the same.
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Jul 28 2016, 06:48:32 AM
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Jul 27 2016, 09:21:14 PM
Is Night on Earth accepted?
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Country: France | UK | Germany | USA | Japan

What makes you think it is?
Probably that 1/3 of the film was shot in Finland in Finnish.

But then most US movies would be Canadian :p
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